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I think they should keep the govt closed. The ones that have something to lose in the long run are the liberals/democrats, the longer people go seeing that the govt is not nearly as important as they believed, the more likely people will stop praying to the god of the democrats (the US govt).
 
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The stock market liked the shutdown for whatever reason.
 
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it usually does, it means the gub can't screw with the economy while it's in gridlock
 
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3 people interviewed today on te local news about how happy they are that they can now afford to go to the doctor....... However, 2 of the 3 were holding a brand fuckign new macbook pro.

Back in the 90's it took me a long time to get a laptop, any laptop, that would have been VERY beneficial to my self-employment..... Because I was paying for health insurance......
 
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if you go big picture, the truth is we're spending ourselves into planned oblivion and the group mind, the hive mind, knows that we are on unsustainable trajectories.

so, both conservative and liberal work together to reduce government spending.

the sequester, how dramatic a pause to create, the mainstream media had us throwing babies out of burning buildings but the reality is the economy didn't even blip, it actually got stronger as a result of forced spending cuts.

maybe this is the new way to get things done, if what you need to get done is keep your job so there's no target on your back. Liberals have to understand how even as we retreat from two wars, we're not free from the region or the cause. Conservatives know that defunding the military is no longer the top of the laundry list Obama made early in his presidency.

A little public showmanship, you've got the 21 hour grandstander and Obama at the pulpit, deriding the repubs for their insouciance.

After he rammed his Obamacock into the conservative, small government-minded ass with a signature bill that is tied to his legacy, as if we voted him in to do that. WE didn't.

It was never well-organized, debated and hashed out for sea-worthiness, it was fabricated by pie-in-sky idealists who had "big changes" in mind, instead of small courteous steps.


you know what happens when you rush into a steeply graded path, you cannot rise fast enough to the challenge and end up mashing your grape into the slope.

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The sincerest form of flattery is imitation.

After he rammed his Obamacock into the conservative, small government-minded ass with a signature bill that is tied to his legacy, as if we voted him in to do that. WE didn't.

Kinda ironic, that the guy who deserves the credit, didn't win The Presidency !
 
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health care IS a major issue, with the haves, having it, and the have nots, out in the wind of no preventive care, late stage diagnostics.


forcing the population to buy policies or be fined, is just so people are pushed into the waiting rooms and told how they are too fat, they smoke too much and drink more than they should.

it's "good feelings" legislation on people's freedoms, to prevent people from injuring themselves on today's sped-up lifestyle of fast food and sedentary iPad swiping.


I predict the outcome of this legislation is that poor people will be treated better because there will be an abundance of good will, the insurance will be flush with their higher premiums and the diagnostics of preventive care will fund the poorly managed "family doctor" specialty, as doctors will be able to fund their yachts and country club memberships with the added revenues of volume purchasing, courtesy of the fed.

All these new numbers on the rolls, means office visits and money well spent because more people will get to some kind of care earlier.


wouldn't that be cool, if it really does make the higher costs of the good plans, trickle down to bronze and silver and get some of the not-yet-diagnosed unwell, into a clinic.
 
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What makes you think that all the local police and military professionals will go along with an outright attack on our freedoms?


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Jesus... Did you not read the part about the JP Morgan contributions? They will go along with it for the same reason our GOV'T sucks... they are bought and paid for by " Job Creators " .... Otherwise known as the fucks that have raped our Financial System.
 
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There are moral people left in this world that value freedom and the ideals of the constitution.

Viva la revolution!
Merica!


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There are moral people left in this world that value freedom and the ideals of the constitution.

Viva la revolution!
Merica!



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Yes. But things change when money involved. Look at how many families change when the old guy with all the money dies. Sad, but money changes EVERYTHING.
 
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At 5:30 p.m. they will meet to discuss the shutdown.

Usual stuff: Did you learn your lesson Barack, etc..,
 
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Just remember it is pure dog-pony show with this, and that the real reason is much more important. I'm certain you all knew this, but a reminder.
 
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Sad, but money changes EVERYTHING.

That probably explains why a mexican ran for the presidency of U.S. and then his son ( an american ) ran for said office, too !
 
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Kinda ironic, that the guy who deserves the credit, didn't win The Presidency !

Even more ironic that the man the bill is derisively named after doesn't want it either
 
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At 5:30 p.m. they will meet to discuss the shutdown.

Usual stuff: Did you learn your lesson Barack, etc..,

I could have told you nothing was going to happen. Obama is NOT a leader, he is a dictator. The only time he got anything done was his first two years, when he had overwhelming numbers in the house and one shy of a filibuster proof senate. Even then, they had a hell of a time passing Obamacare. They had to bribe a number of DEMOCRATIC senators just to get it to pass.
 
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someone is going to blink, historically it has been the republicans
 
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I was glad to see our dictator talked with the one from Iran, reminded me of The Perfect Storm scene where his enemy hit the water first and saved the guy who got pulled overboard.

In the end, it's only money we the people don't have, ... let it ride !!
 
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No wonder the GOP won't deal with our dictator ... what a bunch of s__t.

Treasury Department said failure to raise the nation's borrowing limit, expected to hit its $16.7 trillion cap in mid-October, could precipitate an economic nosedive worse than the recent Great Recession. A default could cause the nation's credit markets to freeze, the value of the dollar to plummet and U.S. interest rates to skyrocket, according to a Treasury report.

Obama cataloged a litany of troubles that could be caused by the failure to raise the debt ceiling, from delayed Social Security and disability checks to worldwide economic repercussions.

"If we screw up, everybody gets screwed up," he said.

"Let it Ride"
 
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The gub will NOT default ... default is where you do not pay your DEBTS and interest on the debt. Default in NOT when you do not fund everything the gub wants to do, every program they create. If Obama does either of these two things he has threatened .. not prioritizing payouts and paying debts first OR raising the debt level on his own, these are impeachable offenses. Sadly he will most likely do one or both if the republicans don't blink .. and nothing will happen.

Just for clarification - SS is something people payed into the whole life and so is not a "freebie" program.
 
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