Mounting amps upside down.

Have any of you cool cats done this? Is it a dumb ass idea....if yes, why? If no, why? I'm trying to think of ways to mount one of my amps to keep it clean and out of the way but that's hard given how large they both are/will be. If i go with the zapco it's somewhere in the 21-25 inch range in length. If i upgrade to the bonkers 5k wolfram that one is in the 20s as well.

My initial thought is heat rises and all that jazz but are there other factors as well?
 
Primarily just making sure it's able to vent the heat properly. That's pretty much just heatsink dependent - those big beauties you mentioned tend to have the fins on the sides, should still be able to cool efficiently.
 
Good to hear. I'd like the trunk to look super clean...to the point that all you see inside the trunk is the subs staring at you. My rear deck is pretty massive too so that may or may not help.


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No doubt. Glenn on here inverted his Ground Zero sub amp in a Scion xB and that was killer. Had it front to back with the plexi bottom so all them beautiful electronics were on display. Was very nice.
 
No issue. I had my old Alpine MRV amps under the rear deck (upside down) and my Arc KS replaced those in the same configuration. Never had a problem with either.
 
It's not a dumb idea. I did a headliner years back that was the amp rack. It's fine. Even for amps that get hot. Their heatsinks will still do what they are supposed to do. No fans required (unless you are truly enclosing the amps).

It just doesn't sound right - "heat rises" and all that. You'll see people even criticizing mounting them on a wall, vertically - even though that's the BEST way to mount an amp, because the rising heat actually creates an updraft - at least in theory. Trunks can get pretty hot in the summer. :lol:
 
It also depends on how hard you're planning on running it. If you're going to run full blast with a 1 ohm load, it might go into protect sooner than if mounted another way. But for the average user, you should be fine.
 
Yeah Al, I was thinking about that too....only because I do like to get down from time to time....I presume I'd mount the Zapco to sort of hide it from people just walking by and it would be running 4 ohm but I'll run the sub amp in another location because that would be 1 ohm. I'll figure it out.


It also depends on how hard you're planning on running it. If you're going to run full blast with a 1 ohm load, it might go into protect sooner than if mounted another way. But for the average user, you should be fine.
 
Here's an ugly view of that old winterbeater Pathfinder that I had that I mounted an amp rack (and passive Xover network) in the roof of:
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That amp was being pushed hard too, powering 2 subs, 4 midbass, 6 widebands, and eventually 2 tweeters as well, plus it's pushing everything through lots of passive Xover components.
This amp was running at 2 ohms for the subs and 2 ohms for the midbass - I don't recall what impedance the widebands were but there were three so I suspect about 2.6 ohms there as well - and it never broke a sweat.

The amp internals are still using the heatsink to draw off heat - and all you are doing is making it a tiny bit less efficient, by mounting it up where "heat rises" to. It's really not much less efficient than mounting it flat on the floor. The most efficient way is to mount it on a wall, because the rising heat will actually create a slight airflow - but again slight is the word.

It's a much bigger deal if you enclose it in a small space, or bury it with your gym bag, or mount it to your sub box and then shove that back into your rear seatback, etc. :wink:

No manufacturer ever asks "Where was the amp mounted?" in a warranty return.
 
That looks badass man. Wow.....well that's good to know. I'm thinking of the Zapco going on the rear deck and figuring out how to allow for heat to escape from the trunk possibly through my factory 8 inch sub opening without causing issue by doing that. Or....OR! putting a fan there lol. That would be cool.

Seriously though, thanks for the input on this guys. I want my install to be as stealth as possible so I can surprise people when I pop the trunk and you don't really see anything except the cones of the woofers.

Here's an ugly view of that old winterbeater Pathfinder that I had that I mounted an amp rack (and passive Xover network) in the roof of:
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That amp was being pushed hard too, powering 2 subs, 4 midbass, 6 widebands, and eventually 2 tweeters as well, plus it's pushing everything through lots of passive Xover components.
This amp was running at 2 ohms for the subs and 2 ohms for the midbass - I don't recall what impedance the widebands were but there were three so I suspect about 2.6 ohms there as well - and it never broke a sweat.

The amp internals are still using the heatsink to draw off heat - and all you are doing is making it a tiny bit less efficient, by mounting it up where "heat rises" to. It's really not much less efficient than mounting it flat on the floor. The most efficient way is to mount it on a wall, because the rising heat will actually create a slight airflow - but again slight is the word.

It's a much bigger deal if you enclose it in a small space, or bury it with your gym bag, or mount it to your sub box and then shove that back into your rear seatback, etc. :wink:

No manufacturer ever asks "Where was the amp mounted?" in a warranty return.
 
I've never had an issue with upside down. Even did an enclosed rack in my old 3 series BMW back in the day. Though I did have fans on that because it was enclosed. It gets real hot in trunks in south Texas.

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I miss these amps. Old Performance Teknique amps bought new on Ebay when they first came out. ICBM Digital and ICBM 774. They were stolen out of this car unfortunately because I forgot to lock the car due to malfunctioning remote door locks. At least they couldn't get the Ascendant Havoc 12. Was bolted to the firewall.
 
That looks pretty nasty. I like it. You had an E30? Trunk looks familiar.

I've never had an issue with upside down. Even did an enclosed rack in my old 3 series BMW back in the day. Though I did have fans on that because it was enclosed. It gets real hot in trunks in south Texas.

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I miss these amps. Old Performance Teknique amps bought new on Ebay when they first came out. ICBM Digital and ICBM 774. They were stolen out of this car unfortunately because I forgot to lock the car due to malfunctioning remote door locks. At least they couldn't get the Ascendant Havoc 12. Was bolted to the firewall.
 
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